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Ask Nathan: A 300-Mile Range Electric Truck Already Exists, Closely Examining Tesla’s Lead And Frequent Recalls

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Ask Nathan: A 300-Mile Range Electric Truck Already Exists, Closely Examining Tesla’s Lead And Frequent Recalls

Electric Truck -- SAIC Maxus T90
(Images: SAIC Motor)

In this week’s Ask Nathan:

  • Sorry Ford, a 300-mile vary EV pickup truck is already out there!
  • Tesla is so good, I’m shopping for some inventory (a more in-depth evaluation)!
  • Are all these remembers a very good factor?

The first query comes from a viewer who’s sick of our EV pickup truck banter, and mentions a 300-mile vary EV pickup that’s already in manufacturing.

Q: Blah blah blah concerning the Ford Lightning all you need when there’s clearly a 300-mile vary EV pickup that already exists!

Everyone at TFLtruck goes on and on concerning the Ford Lightning being so wonderful. They speak and speak about the Rivian being a sport changer. Where is the Hummer? I don’t see it anytime quickly do I? Everyone who talks concerning the Tesla Cybertruck acts like it’s a masterpiece by King Elon.

I’m sick of all that. You guys neglect to take a look at different markets and see for your self that these wonderful non-existent vehicles are to late to the sport. Sometimes you and Andre speak concerning the world market which is nice. But you’re by no means on each side. You have to see this.

Check out for your self and attempt to name me a liar!

— Ting

Electric Truck -- SAIC Maxus T90

A: Wish you’d have despatched me a hyperlink to the 300-mile vary EV pickup truck you’re speaking about.

I feel you’re speaking concerning the SAIC Maxus T90 EV.

Please forgive me if I dug up the incorrect truck, however you didn’t depart me any clues. This is likely one of the few 300-mile vary EV pickup vehicles I may discover in manufacturing.

I’ve to agree with one level you made: none of those EV vehicles are right here as of now. On high of that, TFLtruck.com simply reported that Rivian is delaying their EV pickup truck once more. In different, abroad markets, industrial electrical vehicles have been in service for a few years. I believe we’ll see a serious confluence of our EV pickup market shortly.

I get your frustration, however in our market, pickup vehicles are the largest promoting autos – by far. The concept that electrical variations of those automobile are coming has grabbed shopper’s imaginations. It’s new territory for us, and it’s thrilling. That’s very true when you think about what the efficiency expectations are.

It’s not nearly vary.

Anyway, let’s take a look at the SAIC Maxus T90 EV. It seems that the (midsize) T90 has a everlasting magnet synchronous motor that makes 174 horsepower and 229 lbs-feet of torque. It’s hooked as much as a 88.55 kWh battery. It’s listed to have a high velocity of 65 mph.

SAIC says it has a 332 mile most vary, however I’m unable to search out towing and payload numbers. Also, I’m pressured to conclude that this a rear-drive pickup truck as effectively. Prices begin at roughly $46,400 USD (it retails at CNY 299,800).

It’s a fairly good guess that it could pull a most of 5,000 lbs – at a considerably lowered vary. Also, it is probably not superb for off-road. That battery most likely lowered the payload numbers on the truck. I’d guess it could be at, or beneath 1,000 lbs.

With these numbers in thoughts, I don’t suppose this truck would work in our market, even when it did go our stringent DOT necessities.

Electric Truck -- SAIC Maxus T90 vs Ford F-150 Lightning
This is the 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning (Image: Ford)

Another method to look it’s by utilizing the Ford F-150 Lightning base mannequin for instance. The smaller battery pack on this (full dimension) truck permits for a 230 mile vary, however the elective greater battery nets 300 miles. More to the purpose: the bottom mannequin Lightning makes 423 hp, 775 lb-ft of torque, and has customary four-wheel drive. The base mannequin can haul as much as 2,000 lbs and tow a most of seven,700 lbs with the max tow bundle. Those are simply the fundamentals.

Technologically talking, in a very completely different league. Oh, and the bottom value shall be $39,974.  

I believe that the slew of upcoming EV pickups heading our method may have aggressive numbers as effectively.

With all that being stated, you’re proper – different automakers had been first. Still, simply since you’re the primary one to reach on the dance, doesn’t imply you’re a very good dancer.

Thanks for the e-mail!

— N


The subsequent query comes from a fan who desires our tackle his Tesla insights.

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Q: I’ve been researching Tesla and attempting to estimate the lead they’ve over opponents.

Huge die casting machines, robotic manufacturing, battery tech, virtually complete management of producing course of to call the main areas.

Solid state batteries, hydrogen energy will not be prepared for prime time and life like time strains for both know-how don’t exist. (2025 to 2030) Tesla goes into manufacturing with their second era of batteries in early 2022. The holy grail of 500 mile vary shall be attained. (Rivian ought to make it too, restricted manufacturing functionality shall be a limiter for them) however mainstream/old fashioned corporations, GM, Ford, BMW, VW, Mercedes, Toyota, Chrysler/Fiat (or no matter it’s known as this week); Ford is the perfect of this group, all appear method behind.

Watching teardown movies on YouTube, the comparisons of Tesla vs Mach-E, vs. VW ID.4, dramatically present that ranging from a clean design sheet, Tesla takes the benefit of a clear design. Mach-E has oodles of hoses in every single place and VW has method too many bolts and screws holding issues collectively.

If Tesla can repair the standard points and get a lobotomy to regulate their crappy service, I don’t see how the others compete.

So, I guess on Tesla by shopping for some inventory, (at $664/share just some shares), and to hedge my guess purchased some Ford inventory since vehicles not going away anytime quickly.

All this leads as much as my query, do you and your cohorts at TFL agree with my analysis? Please inform me I’m incorrect earlier than I lose my shirt.

Thank you and please proceed to offer the perfect protection of all issues that go on two, three and 4 wheels.

— Joe M

In The Wake Of Coronavirus, Tesla Factory Will Remain Open

A: Thank you for the nice electronic mail Joe!

(I’m not a fan of how some of us at Tesla can change the funding sport with a easy Tweet.)

The gang and I agree with numerous what you acknowledged, the potential for greatness is there. I discover that the underpinnings of Teslas are extraordinary. Unfortunately, such as you talked about, the standard and repair behind Tesla merchandise leaves lots to be desired.

Do you want spots? I take a look at Tesla the identical method I view sure skilled athletes. As I yell at my tv throughout an upsetting sport, I do know, I merely consider – that they’re able to a lot extra. In some instances, I do know it’s yet one more unhealthy name made by the coach, different occasions – the participant merely isn’t prepared.

TFL Studios has owned three Tesla autos. They had been superior in their very own method, however imperfect. My massive gripe with Tesla continues to be with pricing. Not solely is it typically in flux (with base fashions all of the sudden vanishing and whatnot), nevertheless it’s exorbitant. I see Ford and Volkswagen conserving a majority of their autos inside a sensible price-point for a lot of. On high of that, service and high quality will be higher. So will media relations.

I do know that, with just a few changes, Tesla may trounce all EV opponents. Unfortunately, over time once they may have set the general bar too excessive to achieve, they confirmed the automotive world their weaknesses. Now, they should struggle a battle with extra issues being equal.

I can’t advise you on buying and selling, shopping for, promoting or Bitcoin giveaways – however I can say that Tesla wants to wash home, and form up a bit. The sheer quantity of sources their opponents have (and are starting to faucet into) is bewildering.


The final query comes from a fan who desires to know if all of those latest remembers is an effective factor.

Q: (through Twitter@NathanAdlen) It looks like there are extra remembers than ever earlier than.

Do you suppose it’s as a result of the standard of producing has gone down over time?

— Volker B

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NHTSA recall label on mailings.

A: That’s an awesome query.

Overall automotive high quality vastly over time. So has security – and security precautions. Yes, we’re seeing extra recalls to a sure extent, nevertheless it’s primarily based on faster reactions to points. It is SO a lot simpler to report problems to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at this time. It’s additionally a lot faster for automakers to points info to the general public. All of that’s due to the brand new degree of telecommunication we’re seeing within the trendy age. In some ways, higher communication helps everybody get the phrase out sooner.

Another a part of which will must do with notion. We see transportation organizations, automakers and media react to remembers in such a good time-frame, some info could also be repeated. One recall may be echoed on a wide range of completely different types of media (emails, cellphone calls, letters, news-feeds, social media, and so on.), and all of it’s for security’s sake.

All in all, it’s excellent news. We’re listening to about potential points quickly. In at this time’s setting, automakers are effectively conscious that, failure to subject acceptable recall info, can harm their popularity (and their pocket books).

Thanks once more for the query!

— N

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